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Strong Irrefutable Evidence Against A Pretrib Rapture

(1) John 17:15-16 (KJV)

15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

The Greek meaning of this verse is as follows:

"I pray not" - the Greek word is "ouk" and the primary root word is "me" which means an absolute negative or absolute denial. In using this phrase, Jesus was saying He absolutely denies asking the Father to remove the disciples from the sphere of the world in which they inhabited. In using "ouk" and "me" in this context, it was a strong denial - actually the strongest of denials.  It could be paraphrased as, "Father, I strongly deny asking you to remove My disciples from this world.

"Should take them" - the Greek word is "airo" which is a primary verb meaning to lift up, take up or away and figuratively to raise. That obviously is speaking of a rapture and not a resurrection since Jesus was addressing the prayer to His Father while He was alive on the earth with his living disciples. The idea is without question a rapture.

"out of" is "ek" which is a primary preposition denoting point of origin where the motion or action proceeds. The point of origin is obviously the inhabited world in which the disciples lived. The motion or action proceeding from the point of origin would be the lifting up from the earth.

"world" is kosmos, which is the inhabited world in contrast to the earth proper.

"but" is a neuter plural conjunction meaning contrary to.

"You should keep them" is "tereo" from "teros" of which the primary meaning is to watch, guard and keep the eye on. There is nothing about tereo that implies a removal from the inhabited world, even though pretrib likes to use Revelation 3:10 where it mentions to "keep from" (ek tereo) as a removal or rapture. The same meaning as Jesus used in John 17 is the same in Revelation 3:10 - to watch over, to guard and to keep the eye on.  There is no pretrib rapture implied in the Greek in either John 17 or Revelation 3.

By the way the figurative meaning of teros is to keep unmarried. This is not a coincidence, but pregnant with supportive meaning. The saints are not wed to the Lord Jesus until the 7th Trumpet. Therefore, as the engaged Bride to be to Jesus Christ, God the Father, watches over the future Bride to bring them to the wedding day of His Son - the 7th Trumpet and right before the Vials begin to be opened on the posttrib Day of the Lord.

"from" is again a primary preposition denoting point of origin.

"the evil" is "ho poneros" - "ho" is the definite article (masculine) while "poneros" is evil or wicked.  The idea is "the evil one" who is Satan, the arch enemy of the saints. Jesus is asking the Father to keep the saints from the deception and schemes of Satan not that He is asking they are spared death for we know many Christians will be killed during the Church Age and especially during the Great Tribulation.

(2) John 17:20 (KJV)

20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

"Neither" is a primary conjunction used as either adversative or continuative. Here it is used as a continuative for the Lord is praying for all believers not just the original 11 disciples.

"them also" - a primary participle having a copulative and a cumulative force. Jesus is praying for all believers throughout the Church Age.

"their word" - "logos" meaning speech particularly the preaching of the gospel for Jesus defines it to mean those who believe on Him through the spoken word - "the euangelion" - the gospel.

So taking all the above Greek understanding of what Jesus was praying and asking the Father, it is obvious He was strongly, with absolute denial, beseeching the Father not to take or remove the saints from the inhabited world to extend from the time of His ministry on earth to the very end of the Church Age at the 7th Trumpet.  In plain wording that any can understand who has basic Greek knowledge, Jesus is telling the Father He does not want his disciples and all who will believe on Him through their word, lifted up or raptured from the earth at anytime during the Church Age until the appointed time for the rapture which is the 7th Trumpet.

His one specific request is for the Father to watch over and guard the saints from the evil one, Satan, while they are living in the inhabited world. Again this does not mean to protect from being killed, but to keep from the evil wicked deception and schemes of Satanic strategies.  Again watching over, guarding, keeping from and keeping the eye upon has no connotation to a secret pretrib rapture - none whatsoever.

The Greek language of John 17 forbids a pretrib rapture until it is time for all the saints to be where Jesus is at His coming, which is the millennial kingdom on this earth. To deny this is to fight against the Holy Spirit who inspired the text of John 17 and the words of Jesus Himself. We are warned not to take from of add anything to the Word of God. Pretribbers should heed that warning and not attempt to twist or pervert the clear meaning of John 17, which is by the way the real Lord's Prayer.

The Father has honored this prayer of Jesus for 1984 years of the Church Age and will continue to honor it until the time appointed for the Lord to gather the saints to His presence at the Second Advent:

Revelation 11:15-18 (NASB)

15 Then the  seventh angel sounded; and there were  loud voices in heaven, saying, " The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of  His  Christ; and  He will reign forever and ever." 16 And the twenty-four elders, who  sit on their thrones before God,  fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17 saying, "We give You thanks,  O Lord God, the Almighty, who are and who were, because You have taken Your great power and have begun to  reign. 18 And  the nations were enraged, and  Your wrath came, and  the time came for the dead to be judged, and the time to reward Your  bond-servants the prophets and the  saints and those who fear Your name,  the small and the great, and to destroy those who destroy the earth."